Posts by Anna Marina

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My first encounter

by SB10 in

i don’t know if the woman i met yesterday will ever see this.

but i will forever remember that day for the rest of my life.

my grandfather has been in icu for the past 3 days.

The Bible does hold out the hope of the resurrection of the dead, which is a great comfort. Sadly the Watchtower publishers use this as one of their introductions to get you interested in their leaders' property building empire.

You will find genuine comfort in the words of Jesus Christ which are in the Bible. But I urge you not to get involved with this cult.

I too would have given you such literature at one time, now you'd find me tapping on your door to apologise and explain that I didn't realise they had lied to me and I wouldn't wish you to be misled as I had been.

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Double Standard of Proof

by neat blue dog in

there's a new article about john the baptist (not sure why they reverted to baptist instead of the modern english 'baptizer'), and it goes into several areas of his life followed by quotes from josephus showing that these specific things were historically documented.

the article is summarized by saying:.

the first-century historian josephus viewed john the baptist as a real person.

Anna Marina

This is like saying Henry VI viewed Henry V as a real person, so can we. Thing is no one questions whether or not Henry V was a real person. And I have never heard anyone say John the Baptist wasn't a real person.

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What does "The disfellowshipping of xyz is now rescinded" mean

by cognitivedizzy in

it has happened somewhere i know.

what is it and what does it mean.

Anna Marina

The only way to get reinstated is repentance BUT very occasionally you can get their chucking you out overturned.

Who in their right mind would want that though?

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2--New Talks--If you Want them!

by Atlantis in

2 new talks if you want them.. .

2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

Anna Marina

You bet!

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2--New Talks--If you Want them!

by Atlantis in

2 new talks if you want them.. .

2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

Anna Marina

Oh and they've got their favorite angel from page 7 of 2017 WT repeated 6 times.

2017 WT no 5 Angels

It's the angel closing the mouths of the lions to protect Daniel. Aww shame they didn't put Daniel in the picture instead, wagging his finger at the GB saying, "you are apostates."

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2--New Talks--If you Want them!

by Atlantis in

2 new talks if you want them.. .

2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

Anna Marina

I think its a Palace Helper saying, "Brothers the statistics say that, so we build a new KH here."

I just realized, they aren't even looking at the Bible. I bet someone in the KH would say, "oh it's an unrolled scroll." I'd say, "they've got a map out."

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2--New Talks--If you Want them!

by Atlantis in

2 new talks if you want them.. .

2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

Anna Marina

Hi Petra - wow yes the circle round the GB - and they are being directed by who? Is that shadowy figure another GB member or a Palace Helper?

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2--New Talks--If you Want them!

by Atlantis in

2 new talks if you want them.. .

2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

Anna Marina

Oh just realized in that 2nd talk the speaker HAS to read

(Revelation 11:15) . . .And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.. . .

To justify the point that supposedly:

Jesus is now the King of God’s heavenly Kingdom

What they are saying is that the 7th trumpet blew in 1914. But the trumpets weren't handed out until 1919. Ooops another little logical anomaly for them to work on. To go with the zillion and one others.

*** re chap. 21 p. 129 par. 1 Jehovah’s Plagues on Christendom ***
“And when he [the Lamb] opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour. And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them.”—Revelation 8:1, 2.

*** re chap. 21 p. 129 par. 2 Jehovah’s Plagues on Christendom ***
A significant silence this! Half an hour can seem a long time when you are waiting for something to happen. Now, even the constant heavenly chorus of praise is no longer heard. (Revelation 4:8) Why? John sees the reason in vision: “And another angel arrived and stood at the altar, having a golden incense vessel; and a large quantity of incense was given him to offer it with the prayers of all the holy ones upon the golden altar that was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense ascended from the hand of the angel with the prayers of the holy ones before God.”—Revelation 8:3, 4.

*** re chap. 21 p. 130 par. 4 Jehovah’s Plagues on Christendom ***
Can we determine when this happened? Yes, we can, by examining the context, together with historical developments early in the Lord’s day. (Revelation 1:10) During 1918 and 1919, events on earth harmonized remarkably with the scenario described at Revelation 8:1-4.

*** re chap. 21 pp. 130-131 par. 5 Jehovah’s Plagues on Christendom ***
The sincere Christians of the John class were perplexed. What did God want them to do next? When would they be taken up to heaven? An article entitled “The Harvest Ended—What Shall Follow?” appeared in the May 1, 1919, issue of The Watch Tower. It reflected this state of uncertainty and encouraged the faithful to continued endurance,

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2--New Talks--If you Want them!

by Atlantis in

2 new talks if you want them.. .

2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

Anna Marina

Hi Menrov

Would have been better if they had put qualified men in quotes.

Optional - Use the art work provided to illustrate the two points that follow
He has appointed qualified men to care for the congregation (Mt 24:45; Eph 4:11,12; jllesson19)

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Underming the Watchtower Video Clips

by Vanderhoven7 in

there are a few video clips or short videos that serve to undermine watchtower beliefs and practices.

i'll post one animated one that hits home rather successfully regarding baptism.

there is another one that shows a cartoon jehovah changing his mind again and again about whether or not he will resurrect the people of sodom and surrounding cities.

Anna Marina

Problem is what does psychological abuse mean? Just like a GP can carry out malpractice, so a psychiatrist can carry out psychological abuse.

You have freedom of religion and freedom of conscience - these two things can mean the same thing in one sentence, then they mean something different in another. Also your audience can interpret those phrases according to their understanding.

Psychology isn't a exactly a scientific thing. You think of it being such but just as there are different denominations of a faith, so there are different branches of psychology and different values sytems and priorities believed in by psychiatrists.

Some fields of psychology are aimed at getting people to adjust to a loveless corporate system. I think that is what WT is doing.